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Blogs in this category include information on how we installed the plumbing in our skoolie as well as resources and products used.

  • Skoolie Plumbing System Guide | 2023

    Skoolie Plumbing System Guide | 2023

    The detailed guide to DIY a Skoolie Plumbing System!

    Use this Skoolie Plumbing System Guide to kickstart your research on skoolie plumbing. We break down the stages and important zones you’ll need to consider, give guidance on testing the DIY skoolie plumbing system, answer frequently asked questions, and recommend products to use, including a link to the exact supplies we put in our build. 

    It can definitely seem overwhelming to DIY plumb an entire bus with no or limited experience, but it’s completely possible to accomplish – I’m speaking from personal experience.

    Fortunately, this type of plumbing system is rather simple to plan out and quite few supplies are actually needed, as you’ll see below. Once you create your design and rough it out with fittings, you’re basically complete (except for the occasional swearing and 10th trip to the plumbing supply store, of course).

    If you’re at the beginning stage of your skoolie dream and haven’t purchased your bus yet, check out our ultimate guide on buying a skoolie to convert for the best tips and questions to ask before you buy.

    Table of Contents


    Skoolie Plumbing Supply List

    We purchased the majority of our skoolie supplies on Amazon; however, for plumbing fittings we often ran to our local Home Depot or Lowes as well as local plumbing supply stores. The local stores offered better pricing but the shipping and online convenience of Amazon has its perks.

    Check out our Skoolie Supply and Essentials Shopping List here to see everything we put into our bus.

    Labor Costs

    My husband, Eric, installed the plumbing water and sewer lines himself (I did install the kitchen sink faucet at the very end)!

    We hired a licensed plumber to inspect at the rough-in and final stages. He charged about $75 per inspection. 

    Supply Costs

    We spent about $1500 on parts to install our water supply and sewer lines. Labor was basically $0 since we installed the skoolie plumbing system ourselves.

    The biggest components of that cost went to the products listed below. The prices stated there are approximate.

    Skoolie Fresh Water Supply Purchases

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    Skoolie Plumbing Finishes

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    Skoolie Sewer Line Purchases

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    Miscellaneous Skoolie Plumbing Supplies

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    Find a detailed description of the Skoolie Shower Build-out here.

    Skoolie Plumbing Building Stages

    In this section, we break down the two major stages of plumbing: rough-in and final. The skoolie plumbing includes fresh water supply and waste water management (also known as a sewer system).

    The fresh water supply starts with a fresh water supply port entering the skoolie. This is where water will enter the bus, usually from a hose, and fill the fresh water tank or circumvent the pump, if tying into the grid, and flow directly into the supply lines.

    All sewer lines should drain to the gray water holding tank. The gray water tank will have an outlet that a hose can be attached to when draining. If using a composting toilet, then the solid waste can be bagged and disposed of.

    Plumbing Rough-in

    This is the stage when all the walls are open and framing is complete with studs installed.

    This is also the most time-intensive stage as:

    • you lay out all your water supply lines and sewer lines,
    • decide what appliances (water heater, water pump) and fixtures (sink, shower, water tanks) they will attach to or from,
    • make the connections between the fittings,
    • install back-flow devices, and
    • pressure test the entire system once all connections are made.

    Download our free skoolie floor plan template here to draw your plumbing plan!

    Skoolie Water Supply Lines

    Prior to this stage, you should determine what type of plumbing supply lines you will install in your school bus conversion. The most common options are flexible water lines like PEX or a rigid product like copper.

    By far the most popular skoolie water supply lines to use are the flexible PEX water supply lines because they are beginner-friendly for the DIY skoolie conversion builder, and move with your vehicle. 

    According to the NFPA Recreational Vehicle Building Code 1192, PEX is an acceptable material for a water distribution system. See screenshot of the code below.

    Skoolie Sewer Lines

    For the skoolie plumbing sewer lines, we went with a flexible white 2″ PVC pipe, which is greater than the minimum for RV code according to NFPA. I’ve included a screenshot below of the support.

    We were satisfied with this product as it was easy to work with, especially as we had to run our sewer lines from the bus interior through the floor then across the bus undercarriage to the gray tank. We secured the flexible pipe to the undercarriage with metal zip ties.

    At the end of the skoolie plumbing rough-in stage, you should have run all your lines, made your connections and fittings, and pressure tested the entire system for leaks.

    Just need to pressure test your skoolie plumbing system? Jump to that section here!

    Listed below are resources from other skoolie builders and the products they used in their builds. PEX is used the majority of the time.

    All PEX should be installed through studs in the bus. We used 2×2” wood studs so the [½”] PEX fit just fine. Be sure to install nail plates on the studs wherever you pass the pex through the wall. This is so that once the walls are closed up, you don’t accidentally puncture a waterline with a screw or nail.

    Plumbing Final

    Once you make it to the final stage of plumbing your school bus conversion, you’ve survived the really tough parts!

    At the final stage, you should ready to trim out your system like installing all of your fixtures like the kitchen and bathroom faucets, shower handle, shower head, and water filtration system. There is really a magical feeling at the final stage because you can really see your dream tiny home on wheels coming to life!

    The final stage typically occurs as everything else is coming to an end like your build-out is 90% complete. The framing and insulation are being enclosed and electrical (and solar) are wired in, having all passed their rough-in inspections of their own.

    National RV Building Code

    My husband also relied on national resources such as the RV building codes from the National Fire Protection Association. You can search their website for tips on standard practice at each stage of your build: framing, plumbing, electrical, sewer, and more.

    Skoolie Plumbing Professional Inspection

    We aren’t professionals and don’t claim to be. Eric watched tens of hours of YouTube videos educating himself on how to run our plumbing water supply lines and sewer lines correctly. To be extra safe, we also hired a real plumbing professional to review our system at the rough-in and final stages. 

    We hired a local and trusted plumber to look and provide feedback on our system and paid him $75 at each inspection. A few hundred dollars for an inspection and peace of mind that we have a plumbing system that doesn’t leak was worth it to us. We encourage you to do that too. 

    If you decide to hire a professional, call around and get quotes from a few, if you don’t know anyone personally. 

    Are you thinking of hiring a professional to convert your mobile dwelling? Read this blog.

    Skoolie Plumbing Zones

    Your master plumbing plan is going to be broken up into several major zones. You’ll want to keep these major zones at top of mind as you draw out your skoolie floor plan (download our free skoolie floor plan template here). 

    Here is a brief summary of the common plumbing zones, though this list is not exhaustive. Scroll down to see an in-depth explanation of what each zone has within it.

    • Fresh Water Supply (including your fresh water tank)
    • Kitchen
    • Shower
    • Hot Water Heater
    • Sewer and Gray Water Tank

    Drawing out your plumbing zones will help you visualize what water supply lines and water sewer lines you’ll need to run at each major zone, and help plan and prevent any obstacles you may come upon inside and below your rig. 

    Fresh Water Supply

    This zone is the start of your interior water supply. It begins with water supply lines connecting to the exterior hookups, typically through the use of a city water hatch (We liked this city water hatch with a lock and key).

    Coming in from the exterior, the water supply lines will usually follow two tracks: filling the fresh water tank or, if you are attached to a water source, bypassing the tank and pump to flow directly into the home. 

    Immediately connected to the water pump should be an accumulator. The accumulator will balance out uneven pressure coming from the tank through the pump, so you don’t experience spotty water pressure. 

    If you are bypassing the tank, you should bypass the water pump (and optional accumulator), since you should have sufficient pressure from the exterior source.

    To determine how much fresh water you’ll need on your rig, read this blog.

    Kitchen

    This zone will most commonly include water supply lines for a kitchen sink and interior water filter (commonly mounted under the kitchen sink). Additional upgrades in this zone may be water supply and drain lines for a washing machine and fridge ice maker.

    You’ll also need to account for sewer lines from this area to the gray water, black tank, or some other way of disposing the waste water.

    Shower

    This zone will usually house the water supply and sewer lines for the shower, bathroom sink, and toilet. 

    In our blog on how to build a skoolie shower, we go in-depth on how to run the water lines from the hot water heater, connect the drain lines to the gray water tank underneath the bus, and the supplies we used to finish our skoolie shower like fixtures and ceramic tiles.

    Hot Water Heater

    Consider installing your hot water heater close to the fresh water supply since it is the shortest run to the main water supply. 

    If you are installing a propane water heater, then you’ll need to consider its location to the gas line hookups and a space to vent the exhaust, if your unit requires ventilation.

    We installed an on-demand liquid propane (LP) ventless hot water heater in our skoolie. Read about it in this blog on the “Best Skoolie On-Demand Liquid Propane (LP) Tankless Water Heater for a Family of 5.”

    If you want to know how to install liquid propane gas lines in your skoolie using black iron pipe, then read this blog for our installation guide. [coming soon]

    Sewer and Gray Water Tank

    Any time you have water supply lines going to a zone, you’re going to need to install sewer lines away from this area. It’s a yin-yang balance. 

    Important factors in this zone are to place your gray tank opposite the fresh water tank to balance the weight across the skoolie, and make sure the sewer lines running to the gray tank are on a 1/8 in per foot downward, unobstructed slope, according to the NFPA.org (see screenshot of the code below). We mounted our 200 gallon gray water tank on the left rear exterior side of the bus (under the shower) and our 200 gallon fresh water tank on the right interior rear side of the bus – basically parallel to one another, behind the rear axel.

    If you’re curious what size gray water tank you need, then check out this blog on “How big should my skoolie gray water tank be?”

    Additional Zones

    Additional zones may include sewer lines for a black tank and water supply and sewer lines for a washing machine. 

    In the case of a washing machine, you would follow similar steps as in the sink plumbing to attach water lines to the back of the machine and then create a drain set up (like in the Bussy McBusface skoolie build) that flows into your gray tank. 

    Personally, we really enjoy dropping off our family of five’s laundry off at a laundromat and using the wash-and-fold service. Read about how we do laundry when living in a skoolie here.

    How do I pressure test skoolie plumbing water supply lines for leaks?

    Once you’ve reached the stage where your DIY skoolie plumbing water supply lines are in, it’s time to pressure test it for leaks!

    The tools you’ll need are:

    • an air compressor
    • valve
    • a pressure gauge
    • caps for the water supply lines

    1. Cap off the water supply lines

    Go through your bus and cap off any ends, but for two lines (one cold water, one hot water). Choose the easiest lines to access perform the test, so you’re not in a tight space unnecessarily. For example, we tested our water supply lines in the large bedroom so we had plenty of space to move around.

    2. Connect the valve and the pressure gauge to the supply lines

    Connect the valve and pressure gauge to the water supply lines using the PEX fitting adapters. For example, you’ll put an adapter on the valve (which the air compressor attaches to) on the hot water supply, and an adapter to the pressure gauge attached to the cold water supply.

    Honestly, the “pipe temperature” doesn’t matter, but most builds mark red water supply lines for hot water and blue for cold.

    3. Charge the water supply lines

    Attach the air compressor to the valve using the adapter. Charge the lines to about 100 psi, then wait for up to 8 hours. If you see during that time that there is a huge drop of pressure, then you know there is a leak.

    4. Sourcing a water supply leak

    If you’ve found leak in your water supply lines after the air pressure test, then it’s time to find the source of it. Depending on the size of the leak, you may need to charge your lines again.

    Mix 1/3 cup dish detergent with 2 cups of water, and dip a rag in the mix. You’ll first test all the fittings or joints since loose fittings are the most common causes of leaks. Once you find a leak, the soap will begin to bubble from the air escaping. If that doesn’t solve the issue, next you’ll run the mix down all the actual lines. If you’ve been recently framing, perhaps something punctured the water lines.

    Once you locate the leak(s), adjust the fittings or pipes as needed. Pressure test the system again until the psi holds at 100 for 8 hours.

    Here are two great resources for you to follow:

    For the common cause of water leaks in your skoolie water supply and sewer lines, hop to this part of the article.

    How do I test skoolie plumbing water sewer lines for leaks?

    Thankfully, this test will be a fair bit simpler than the air pressure test for the water supply lines. Simply stub off the sewer line going into the tank with something non-absorbent. Next, run 2 cups of water into the system and wait 4 hours.

    Prior to running water in your lines, consider installing water detection monitors to catch leaks quickly. They will set off a little alarm once water is detected.

    You’ll really want to make sure you have easy access to all the sewer pipes at this stage in case there are leaks.

    After that time is up, drain the standing water and you should come out with what you put in. If there is a significant loss of water, then you’ll check for leaks using the same method as mentioned in the above section.

    How to pitch your sewer line in your skoolie conversion

    It’s worth mentioning that if you are having drainage issues in your rig, you should make sure that you are parked on a flat service or a service with a slight decline towards where you need the waste water to go.

    For example, our gray water tank was installed at the rear of our bus, so we make sure to pitch our entire sewer system downward from the furthest point away (the kitchen, in our case). From the kitchen, our sewer drain traveled at a light downward pitch at 1/8 in per foot (according to the NFPA RV Building Code 1192) to the gray water tank.

    In severe cases where the waste water just doesn’t drain properly even after parking on a flat, level surface, you can consider purchasing a pump to carry this along to the sewer tank.


    Skoolie Plumbing System Diagram

    *Coming soon*

    Additional Skoolie Plumbing Resources

    Skoolie Supply – Skoolie or vanlife water set-up

    Rough skoolie resources – fresh and gray tank

    NFPA RV Building Code


    Frequently Asked Questions

    How long does it take to install plumbing in a skoolie?

    For a complete beginner, I would budget 60 hours dedicated to plumbing. You’ll need to factor in the time it takes you to study and plan your plumbing and sewer layout. I would estimate my husband took at least 20 hours of study and planning time. Budget 5 hours for the initial product and appliance purchases, and 5 more hours to run back-and-forth to the hardware store for missed parts. At the rough-in stage, I would estimate this to take 20 hours and the final stage to take about 10 hours. 


    Why should you use flexible water supply lines in your skoolie conversion build?

    Flexible PEX water supply lines are beginner-friendly for even the most novice builder, and this is what we personally used as complete beginners! The flexible construction and joints are useful in a mobile application like a recreational vehicle, are freeze-resistant, and making repairs is simple compared to a rigid copper pipe when working in small spaces as in a school bus conversion. 

    As such, flexible PEX water supply lines are the most popular product when running plumbing in a skoolie.

    What size PEX water supply lines should you use in your school bus conversion?

    Flexible PEX water supply lines come in two main sizes: ½ inch and ¾ inch. Due to the small footprint of a skoolie plumbing system, maintaining consistent water pressure throughout the system should be attainable using the ½ inch water supply lines. 

    In our school bus conversion, we used the ½ inch PEX water supply lines because we were confident that the flow would be adequate for such a small length of plumbing. In practice, we are happy with our choice and have had no water pressure issues in our mobile plumbing system.

    What causes a school bus conversion water supply or sewer leak?

    Leaks in the plumbing system are most often going to occur at the joints, where the lines are connected using a fitting. The other cause will result from damage to the water supply line itself.

    Water leaks can be devastating, so we recommend install a water leak monitor in the most used and hard to see areas of your rig to catch a leak fast. I recommend two water leak detectors below, depending on your budget.

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    Plumbing Skill Level Needed

    Working with PEX is beginner-friendly, though by the end you’ll be at an intermediate skill level. 

    My husband, Eric, spent seven months in 2020-2021 building out our skoolie into our dream tiny home on wheels for our family of five. He had never worked with flexible PEX tubing before or installed any sort of plumbing system with pump and sewer. I’m happy to report we’ve not had any leaks! 


    Disclosure: Some of the links in this article may be affiliate links, which can provide compensation to me at no cost to you if you decide to purchase a paid plan. Thank you, if you do. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. This site is not intended to provide financial advice and is for entertainment only. Read our affiliate disclosure in our privacy policy.

  • How to build a skoolie shower

    How to build a skoolie shower

    In this blog, you’ll learn about our process and supplies used for building out the shower in our school bus conversion. All the steps we took were in consideration of this being a mobile dwelling and making it as water-tight as possible for the long haul. We also provide resources from trade professionals and fellow skoolie DIYers on how they made their skoolie shower.



    Skoolie Shopping Essentials

    Read this blog to see the product shopping list that we used to build out our skoolie!


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    Get the Free Skoolie Floor Plan Template

    How to Build a Skoolie Shower

    Framing a skoolie shower is made up of two stages: rough-in and final. The rough-in stage is where you’re building the frame of the space according to your floor plan, running water lines through the walls to the valves and shower head, and drilling the sewer line.
    The final stage is where the walls get closed up and you can waterproof the walls, install the shower pan, connect the sewer lines, add the finishing touches such as tile and fixtures.

    Rough-In Stage

    Create a skoolie floor plan

    Before my husband started framing, we designed a rock solid skoolie floor plan to meet our family’s needs. Read how to easily design a skoolie floor plan for floor plan resources on how to do it by hand or digitally.

    Snag the free skoolie floor plan template here, if you want to draw by hand!

    Frame the shower dimensions and specifications

    Eric framed our shower space to be 2 foot wide (entrance) by 3 foot deep. He used 2 inch by 4 inch (“2 by 4s”) pressure treated lumber purchased at Home Depot.

    Inside the shower, he built:

    • a 3-foot tall by 1 foot deep bench to give us a little luxurious space to sit after a tough hike
    • space for 2’x2′ shower pan
    • blocked out with wood the locations of our shower diverter kit (“shower handle guts”) and shower head
    • Cut more narrow furring strips for the curved shower ceiling. We would have to cut narrow pieces of cement board to form a curve.
    • Ran the water lines and connected them to the valves and shower head

    Install the shower pan and cement board walls

    After framing the structure of our bathroom, Eric installed a fiberglass shower pan on the floor. Before glueing it in place, he cut through the insulated floor and metal frame of the bus to install the sewer lines using a circular drill bit.

    If you’re using a standard size shower pan like we purchased, then the hole should already be installed (usually in the center) of the pan.

    Install cement board on the walls

    Since the ceiling is curved, he scored the back of the cement board so it could bend. When he did need to cut through the board, he used a membrane tape to seal the edges. That’s important to do before the waterproofing membrane goes up.

    Cut the cement board outside and wear a mask. You don’t want to inhale the dust.

    He cut through the cement board to create holes for the shower valve kit and shower head.

    Waterproof the walls

    He applied mesh on the corners and then rolled three layers of waterproof product: Redguard.

    Waterproofing our shower with Redguard

    Final Stage

    Install Tile

    Next, Eric used ceramic tile adhesive (aka. mortar) to bond the tiles to the walls. He used a wet saw to cut the tiles.

    We opted for a small grid horizontal subway tile on net backing for easy of installation and a little extra support on the road. Frequently, you hear of cracked grout and broken tiles when used in a mobile application, and we feel this gave us the best solution. Having the tiles on a 1 foot by 1 foot sheet, rather than individual tiles, sped up his workflow a lot.

    He used a wet saw to make straight cuts and tile nipper for small cuts.

    He applied the tiles using a ceramic tile adhesive (also known as mastic or thinset) and a trowel (like this one from Amazon). He mixed the adhesive himself and didn’t buy the pre-mixed compound.

    Once the tile were installed, he used an unsanded grout (like this Mapei product on Amazon) to seal and bond the tiles together. He also mixed it himself using a 5-gallon bucket and mixing blade and didn’t buy the pre-mixed compound.

    Finally, he sealed the grout with a grout sealer. This eco-friendly one retails for ~$15.50 on Amazon. You can apply the grout sealer with a rag or sponges.

    Connect water lines

    After framing, before the walls went up, he connected the shower water lines to make sure there were no leaks.

    Connect sewer lines

    Make a snake from plumber’s putty and line the underside of the shower drain assembly.
    Plumber’s putty will make a seal between the pan and the drain to make sure there are no leaks there. Finally, you’ll connect the shower drain assembly to the drain line with flexible thread sealant.
    Unfortunately, you’ll like be working under the bus at this stage, so prepare to get a little dusty.

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    Supplies to Build a Skoolie Shower

    Here is a list of supplies that we used to do our shower tiling project. These links will take you to Amazon, but you can also find these items in local construction and tile stores. As an Amazon affiliate, I earn from qualifying purchases.


    Supplies needed to connect the drain in a skoolie shower

    The products below will be linked to examples found on Amazon; however, you should be able to locate them at your local plumbing supply store or contracting store like Lowe’s or Home Depot.

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    Protect your skoolie gray tank with a fine strainer

    I recommend purchasing a fine mesh strainer (like this one on Amazon) to go over the shower and any sink drains. This is to limit particles other than liquids going down the drain that could later cause a blockage in your gray tank. Yuck!

    Read the blog about how to determine what size skoolie gray water tank you’ll need.

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    Best Water Tank for a Skoolie

    We recommend the largest water tanks you can install. We went with two 100 gallon tanks for fresh water and gray water storage.


    Frequently Asked Questions

    How to waterproof a skoolie shower

    Eric painted the walls with 2 coats of Redguard waterproofing membrane as you can see in this vlog here. We used Redguard to waterproof our shower; however, we used a Schluter system when installing our backsplash in the kitchen area.

    Due to space constraints, we chose to go with Redguard in the shower since it was easier to “paint” in a smaller space than installing a membrane system like Schluter.

    Resources

    Professional

    If you want to learn more about how to install tile and which products to use where, check out this FloorTechie.com blog post.

    Skoolie DIYers

    How KelsAndJay tiled their shower

    Adventures with Boog installed a bathtub

    Gilligan Phantom used an orange waterproof membrane to seal his shower

    Gilligan Phantom also installed his tile with a “flexible” compound

    Tale of Two Smittys walk you through their process on the rough-in stage of their shower

    Conclusion

    Thanks for following our journey. – Ingrid & the HildeFam

  • How to easily design a Skoolie Floor Plan

    How to easily design a Skoolie Floor Plan

    In this blog, we provide resources on how to easily design a skoolie floor plan that works for you, whether you’re traveling solo or a big family. You will get insights on what to consider in your build from fellow skoolie DIYers, things you can live without and electronic resources if pen & paper aren’t what you’re looking for. You’ll also get our free skoolie floor plan template to help you quickly start planning your build.


    How much time does it take to make a skoolie floorplan?

    Though the amount of time it takes you to design your skoolie floor plan varies depending on the method used (paper & pen or software) and your skill level, we can provide insight into our actual timeline.

    We designed our skoolie floor plan initially with pen and dot grid paper over five hours.

    Later, after we used blue painters tape to layout our floor plan in the bus, I took a photo with my iPad then used the Procreate app to create furniture like the sofa and cabinets in the kitchen. This part was more of a labor of love and probably took me an hour of fun to draw.

    As many of us have done, we spent far more time researching our design goals using tools like Pinterest.

    What school bus size is right for your skoolie conversion?

    Before you purchase your bus, be considerate of your goals with your skoolie. For example, if you love traveling and camping to National Parks, some restrict on the maximum size of recreation vehicle allowed in the park (27 feet usually).

    We personally were unable to enter Acadia National Park in Bar Harbor, Maine with our 37′ rig; however, we were easily able to camp at a nearby RV park, Mt Desert Narrows, that didn’t have restrictions.

    Designing your skoolie floorplan by hand

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    Free Skoolie Floor Plan Template + Bonus

    As mentioned, we designed our school bus conversion floor plan with good ol’ pen and graph paper. You can watch how we did it here on our vlog.

    Every square on the graph paper corresponded to 1 foot, so we used roughly 37 squares for a 37 foot bus.

    I customized dot grid paper that I’m sharing here for free.

    Each piece of paper has room for 3 full skoolie designs. In addition to that, you’ll get a bonus skoolie build timeline to help keep your project on schedule.

    Note: If your eyesight isn’t great, you can buy larger graph paper and/or change your scale to suit your needs when drawing.

    Electronic resources to design your skoolie floorplan

    If you really want to make your layout electronically, we totally get it.

    Pros to using software

    Some pros to taking your design digitally is the ability to design anywhere using cloud-based software, and it can look a whole lot cleaner which is helpful when there are several people working on the build out of your tiny home on wheels.

    Cons to using software

    The image is a skoolie build out at the framing stage. The owner took an interior photo and then used the procreate app on her ipad to draw the layout of the kitchen and living room.
    HildeBus Skoolie Floor plan designed with the Procreate app

    There is always some bad with the good; some cons to consider with using software is the requirement to have internet if you’re using a cloud-based tool, the learning curve to use the software, and the cost of acquisition.

    Below is a list of software tools that you can use to digitally create a floor plan that works for your school bus conversion.

    Skoolie Floor Plan Design Software

    Procreate App on iPad

    The Procreate App is one of my favorite and versatile drawing tools. Though it isn’t specifically made for floor plans, we did find it helpful to take a photo of our design and draw over it to help visualize the final product.

    This app runs about $10 in the Apple App store.

    If you want to quickly learn how to use Procreate, I highly recommend a 1 month free trial of Skillshare here (that’s where I learned).

    We used Procreate to help us visualize our build from here:

    To here:


    What should I consider before I design my skoolie floor plan?

    Your build will require you to cut through the frame of the bus, so knowing areas that are unaccessible or too small to work in before you design will save you a lot of headache later.

    We worked in some tight spaces when running our flexible water lines for plumbing and rigid black pipe for our propane lines, though no major obstructions due to good planning.

    Before you create your skoolie floorplan, consider the following:

    • Making your water access (sinks, showers, water heater) & propane gas lines on the same side to limit the amount of product and possibility of leaks.
    • Installing the (usually matching size) water tanks on left & right sides of the bus to balance out the other when half full.

    Important questions to ask yourself at the pre-design stage:

    • Will you be mounting any of the following & how many holes do you need to cut for them?
      1. AC unit
      2. Storage
      3. Solar panels
      4. Roof deck
      5. Vent fans
      6. Skylights
      7. Chimney
      8. Vented hot water heater
      9. 2 water storage containers (fresh water & gray water)
      10. Electric
      11. Propane or other gas tanks
    • Will the products you use to run plumbing, electric and propane gas be flexible or rigid?
    • What are the widths of the products you will use to run plumbing, electric and propane?
    • How many beds do you need?
    • How much personal and food storage do you need?
    • What will your dining space look like?
    • What will your couch look like? Will it turn in to sleeping quarters?
    • Will you be following RV code during your build out, primarily for electrical, solar and plumbing rules?

    After you design your floorplan, do this:

    The image is a skoolie build out at the framing stage. The owner took an interior photo and then used the procreate app on her ipad to draw the layout of the kitchen and living room.
    HildeBus Skoolie Floor
    • Walk through your bus after the interior has been demolished, and mark out the floor plan with removable painters tape. This allows for flexibility if plans change.
    • Once the tape is down, check the undercarriage, roof and exterior to make sure there are no barriers or tight spaces that will affect framing, plumbing or electric.
    • Double-check all measurements.
    • Is there any “dead space” that can be used? We made cut-outs in (otherwise dead space) by our wheel wheel for a toy storage nook.

    What could we have lived without in our skoolie build?

    The one thing we could have lived without would be the sink in our bathroom. It’s really tiny small, though great for our small kids; however, we could have saved a few feet and not bothered with it at all.

    What do we wish we had installed?

    Real doors separating the cabins and bathroom! We’ve spent a lot of time being in really close quarters – having some privacy is needed and curtains just don’t do it well enough.

    Also, a better storage system for our coconut coir for our composting toilet would be lovely. The storage bin we used emptied very quickly for the size family we had, though it looks great in pictures!


    Skoolie build resources

    Below are resources to other people who have built a skoolie and how they designed their floorplan.

    Conclusion

    Thanks for following our journey. – Ingrid & the HildeFam

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  • How big should my skoolie gray water tank be?

    How big should my skoolie gray water tank be?

    How big should my skoolie gray water tank be?

    We purchased the same size gray water tank as we did fresh water tank in our skoolie, and don’t regret it. We are a family of five (2 adults and 3 young kids), and we installed two 100 gallon tanks: one for fresh water and one for gray water. This blog will go into everything we know about determining what size gray water tank you will need for your skoolie as well as maintaining, draining and not overflowing it!

    Shop the water tank that we bought!

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    Where did you purchase your gray water tank from?

    We purchased both our gray water & fresh water tanks for our skoolie from Class A online at Amazon. It arrived within a day or two of purchase straight to our doorstep.

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    Click here to read about the blog on “How much water does a family need living in a skoolie? This can be a helpful read if you aren’t sure what size gray and fresh water tanks you’ll need yet.


    Go for the largest size gray water tank possible

    Why? Well, a few reasons:

    • There isn’t a big price difference between the next size down from 100 gallons.
    • There isn’t a huge difference in dimensions between those same same referenced above, so installation wasn’t an issue.
    • It’s stinky work to drain your gray water.

    Living in a skoolie is relatively easy except for those normal household chores like refilling your fresh water and dumping your gray tank. As now an experienced RVer, the less time spent doing these activities means more time for things we like doing.

    A word to the wise though, don’t let your gray tank overflow – it stinks (even if you treat it!).


    How long does a 100 gallon gray water tank last for a family of five?

    We are a family of five (2 adults, 3 young children), and we dumped our 100 gallon gray water about once a week.

    For a single person, you you could probably go two to three weeks without needing to dump your gray tank.

    A bar graph showing the Number of weeks before needing to drain your gray water tank, based on the number of people in the household
    Number of weeks before needing to drain your gray water tank, based on the number of people in the household

    Where do you install your gray water tank in a skoolie?

    We mounted our gray water tank underneath our bathroom area, at the left rear of the bus. Our fresh water tank is mounted on the right rear of the bus, so they balance each other out when each is about 50% full.

    How much does 100 gallons of gray water weigh?

    According to World Atlas, one gallon of water weighs 8.3 pounds. Therefore, 100 gallons weighs approximately 830 pounds.


    Skoolie gray water tank maintenance

    How often do you need to dump your gray tank?

    In our experience, as often as we filled our freshwater tank, we needed to dump our gray tank. In theory, you will not have the same water out as the amount of water in, BUT our best practice is to fill and dump at the same time or close to to avoid overflows of the gray tank (it’s stinky!).

    How much time does it take to dump 100 gallons of gray water from the gray tank?

    It takes about 20 minutes to dump our 100 gallon gray water tank with the valve fully open. In hindsight, we could have installed a larger valve to let water flow out faster, but honestly it wouldn’t be a huge time saver.

    Where did you dump your gray water while boondocking?

    The water in the gray water tank is composed of used sink & shower water, some soap, and pee! Though a little gross, it’s completely safe to dump it basically where ever you want… though use discretion! It stinks!

    Since it smells, our best practice when boondocking or being off-grid is to look for large fields or perhaps grocery store parking lots with green space or a sewer drain nearby and drain there while shopping.

    What happens when your gray water tank is full?

    If your gray water tank is full, it’s going to come out of the first available outlet. It’s a stinky mess when that happens so create a routine to check on water levels, treat the water to reduce odor and to dump your gray water on schedule to minimize this from occurring.

    Can you leave your valve open on your gray water tank so it constantly drains?

    As long as you aren’t draining right below your rig, that’s completely fine technically. Gray water stinks, even if you treat it. It’s the equivalent of standing in a puddle of old pee.

    Long term stay: If you can attach a drain hose to the gray water tank valve so it drains to either a sewer (like at an RV park) or field, then this is a good option for a long term stay.

    Short term stay: If you are boondocking or staying somewhere without proper dump facilities, it’s pretty unsightly to see a hose hanging out draining into the grass all the time. Dump discretely for 20-30 minutes to drain the tank, then close the valve and stow the hose.

    How do you treat gray water to reduce the smell?

    There were a few times when the gray tank got really full that you could smell the gases, even with the back-flow preventer in place in our plumbing. As such, we purchased a product that reduces or mitigates the bacteria smell in the tank until it can be drained. You can find this gray water treatment on Amazon.

    Our best practice to reduce the smell from the gray water tank in our skoolie was to:

    • Scrape as much food off the plates as possible to limit what goes down the drain.
    • Treat the water with an environmentally-friendly deodorizer.
    • Drain the gray water frequently to limit the risk of overflow and odor build-up.

    You don’t need much of the product to reduce or remove the odor. Be mindful that you purchase something that is environmentally-friendly, especially if you are dumping your gray water somewhere other than a sewer.

    Some say you can treat gray water with vinegar but don’t make yourself suffer like we did. Just skip straight for the deodorizer or drain more frequently.

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    Best Water Tank for a Skoolie

    We recommend the largest water tanks you can install. We went with two 100 gallon tanks for fresh water and gray water storage.

  • How much fresh water does a family need living in a Skoolie RV?

    How much fresh water does a family need living in a Skoolie RV?

    This blog goes into all the details on how to calculate how much water you’ll need to live comfortably whether you’re an individual or a big family like us. The amount of fresh water you will need to carry on board with you in your skoolie will vary depending on several factors: length of time living on board (full time or part time), number of people traveling in the bus (individual or a family) and how you will be living in your skoolie (RV parks or boondocking).


    Our background

    If you’re not familiar with our story, you can read it here.

    We lived full-time in our skoolie, lovingly called the HildeBus, for six months during May to October in 2021. We built her out with the intention of living and adventuring full-time, and therefore our water storage supported that goal.

    Water Usage

    What size water tanks did we install in our skoolie for a family?

    We installed two 100-gallon water tanks in our tiny home on wheels. Find them on Amazon here.

    The freshwater is mounted indoors, under the bed in the captains’ quarters. The gray water tank was mounted underneath the rear of the bus, under the bathroom area.

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    For questions about gray water tanks and usage, read the blog on How big should your skoolie gray water tank be? and how we treat and drain it when boondocking.


    How much water will one person use per day in a skoolie?

    If you were one person living in a school bus conversion, after factoring in your 1 gallon of clean drinking water, you will use approximately 6 gallons for the household activities like dishes, cleaning and showering.

    Some perspective on water usage

    How much water do you use in a 3 minute shower in a skoolie?

    Most water-efficient shower heads emit 1.5-2.5 gallons of water per minute. At 2 gallons of water a minute, your 3 minute shower uses 6 gallons of fresh water.

    How much water do you use to do dishes?

    According to the NRDC, doing dishes by hand (in a “normal home” can use up to 27 gallons of water! Though I don’t believe our water usage was anywhere near that high in our skoolie, it did contribute probably the most to our daily water usage.

    How long will 100 gallons of water last in a skoolie with a family of 5?

    In practice, we used about 14 gallons of fresh water a day as a family of 5 (2 adults, 3 young children). I calculated this by dividing the 100 gallon fresh water by 7 days before needing to refill, which comes out to about 14.29 gallons.

    After budgeting 3.5 gallons of drinking water per person (1 gallon of drinking water per adult, 1/2 gallon of drinking water per child), the 10.5 remaining gallons of water used came from doing dishes, light cleaning and fast showers.

    Note: We outsourced laundry to a laundromat, which reduced household water consumption significantly – “wash & fold” service is dream come true! Read more about laundry options in an RV here.

    A tiered bar graph showing the daily water usage of 3 different sized families in a skoolie
    Skoolie water usage by family size

    How often did we need to refill our 100 gallon freshwater tank?

    A practical application

    We enjoyed boondocking (not being tied into the power or water grid – filling our water tanks and relying on solar energy for electricity). As such, we relied on having full a water tank when planning this type of trip.

    When living full-time on board as a family of five and boondocking, we needed to refill our freshwater tank about once a week.

    Where did we find fresh water to fill our water tank in our skoolie?

    When we lived on the road for six months full time in our skoolie, we filled our water tank up about 20 times when not tied into the grid. Most often, we found water at these sources:

    • Gas stations like Flying J’s
    • Rest stops
    • Host locations through Boondockers Welcome, which is now a part of the Harvest Hosts family
    • Campgrounds and RV parks
    • Boat yards & Marinas
    Pie chart showing different places to find fresh water to fill your skoolie water tank
    Find fresh water easily when on the road.

    Gas station & rest stop suggestions

    When refilling our water tank at gas stations & rest stops, we look for places that have high traffic and, therefore, more people accessing it versus a station in the middle of nowhere that may have some standing well water.

    Boondockers Welcome & Harvest Hosts

    These affordable host sites are fantastic ways to camp and boondock affordably and safely. Prior to booking, you can see if your host site offers hookups for water and other utilities like electric and glorious wireless internet.

    Campgrounds and RV parks

    Campgrounds and RV parks became a “hail Mary” for us when traveling with kids. Sometimes we just desired a RV-friendly community and safe place for our kids to roam, without having to think about it all. These parks often have load of amenities and activities, especially in the summer season, and access to utilities like WiFi, electric (to power our AC), and water.

    Boat Yards & Marinas

    Boat yards and marinas are well-equipped for larger vehicles like RVs due to the nature of their business. They’re usually pretty accepting too if you need to fill up your water, dump your gray, and toss out your trash. We had the best experience in Georgetown, Maine, where we stayed at Back River Boat Yard for two weeks.

    Disclaimer: There are a number of places to find water to fill up your skoolie water tank; however, maintain a good level of skepticism about clean drinking water. Finding water is one of the easier things to find on the road; however, make sure to filter it regardless of where you get it.


    How do you filter fresh water in an RV?

    We filter our fresh water in two stages:

    1. As the water comes into the holding tank with an in-line filter attached to the water hose.
      We used this product from Amazon. It’s meant to last 12 months – the competitors often say 3 months.
    2. To supply clean drinking water available at the kitchen sink, we installed 1 specialized filter under the sink.
      We used this product which is available on Amazon.

    How long does it take to fill a 100 gallon tank of fresh water in a skoolie or RV?

    Depending on the flow and water pressure of the water source, it takes about 20 to 30 minutes to fill a 100 gallon freshwater tank.

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    Best Water Tank for a Skoolie

    We recommend the largest water tanks you can install. We went with two 100 gallon tanks for fresh water and gray water storage.

    Thanks for following our adventure. If you like this blog post, check out this one on the Best Skoolie On-Demand Tankless Propane Hot Water Heater. – Ingrid & The HildeFam.